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Member of the Anti-Suicide Wiki Ring

When you are alone...

by [TheRogue]



This wiki is password protected now, due to idiots who enjoy destroying wikis. Message me or [Yuriona] for the password to add your name to the list

Warning Signs of Suicide


Talking about suicide.
Statements about hopelessness, helplessness, or worthlessness.
Preoccupation with death.
Suddenly happier, calmer.
Loss of interest in things one cares about.
Visiting or calling people one cares about.
Making arrangements; setting one's affairs in order.
Giving things away.




This is an excerpt from my journal in 1995. I cannot save everyone, nor can I be there for everyone who thinks that nobody cares. I wanted you to see this, because it shows that I have been where you may be now, and I am still here (meaning that I am still alive and kicking, btw.. I am past this point in my life now and very glad I didn't give up..). Life is always hard, and you get through it and it will make you a better person, even if you don't think it will now, or you think that your problems are all your own. It will not be easy. But you will look back in 10 years...and realize all the things you would have missed if you had committed suicide....


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There are very few words...which can comfort
a severely suicidal person. These are a few things that may help if you know someone who needs to talk...a few suggestions i've found that may help as well...
* I hope there will be something I can say to you now, that will help you find a reason to stay alive for another day - find a reason to bear the unbearable pain until relief comes.
* Find something or someone to live for, for a little while
* Let someone help you through and beyond this horrible, but temporary time in your life.

Just remember...

*You can always kill yourself - l a t e r ---Just don't do it now.
* Put it off - for another hour, another day.
* Give yourself a chance to get help.
* If you had cancer, or a heart attack, you would suffer then too - in a different way - but you would let it hurt till you could get well.
* If you can decide to let it hurt, without acting on the impulses for a little longer, with the right help, you could feel so much better that one day...



Other Wikis and Help Resources

If you have an Anti-Suicide or Anti-Cutting wiki, you may add it here for everyone to see. Sort of an Elftown Webring. Message [Yuriona] or [TheRogue] for the password.

Stories of Survival
Counselors of Elftown
You Are Not Alone Created by [Here's where the story ends]
Anti-Suicide Created By [i am jack's box]



Hotlines and Contact Numbers


www.save.org Suicide Awareness Voices of Education website. Some good stuff in there about it and how to get help.
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.suicide.html A bunch of good resources, links and hotlines.

1-800-SUICIDE
1-800-743-2433



I may be setting myself up for a giant family sized helping of stress, but I would like some volunteers to join me here...people who don't mind talking to others about their suicide/cutting problems, and trying to help them through it. If you are interested, please put your name below, because I can see that there are more than just a few people who desperately need someone who cares, and I can't turn away from them even if I wanted to, so I am going to need some really good help..If you are quickly discouraged, or cannot listen, or think you have a one message answer to give to people that will miraculously cure a persons desire to die, then don't bother joining. It does not work that way.. this is something that will perhaps bring you into a world of stress and heartache that you might not be able to handle..and sometimes.. it will be time consuming...working back and forth with people, trying as best as you can to help them see that their world is not better off without them. I will set the names in two categories.. Suicide and Cutting. If you rather help one or the other, put your name with the corresponding title, so that anyone who visits this wiki will know who they can contact for help. There is alot of pain in Elftown... I hope this works even for a few people...and remember.. that you cannot save them all.. but you can sure as hell try...[TheRogue]


People in Elftown you can message if you need someone to turn to


WYAA Suicide Volunteers

WYAA Cutting Volunteers



If you support the cause, Help by volunteering, or want to help, feel free to grab a banner for your house

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If you are there, in that dark place with nowhere else to turn....remember that you have people who love you...remember Elftown and think of the people who's lives you touched, and will never be the same without it, who care about you, even if you are miles away, because they do. I care. And I don't have to know you to do that. I know where you are, and where you've been. Think of someone else's pain, before you give in to your own...

[TheRogue]



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2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: It's a mystery....we will solve the mystery! *dresses up like a detective* Let's get started....ummm...do you know where to start?

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: o.0 XD

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ...I've never solved a mystery before...*thinks*

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ...what? *looks at her* Oh wait..I have solve a mystery it's called "where the heck did the remote go???"

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lmfao

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles* oh you think that one is funny try "where did those children i'm supposed to be babysitting go" or "how come there are muddy pawprints on every surface of my house?"

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: hmm i wonder*smirks and tickles her*

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: oh I know it's the same reason one of my socks is always missing and I always end up falling out of the bed!...it's called "Oni"

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: of those are just the warming up there are always mysteries that end in "Rei" "Kati" and "Rini" "Sirus" oh the list goes on forever...

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: yup

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: What kind of mysteries do you solve daily?

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: um"Where did my shoes go?"

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: *nods* yep that's a good one...we deal with *where'd my hairbrush go" a lot, too

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: heh mine is usually"Where the hell did i put my wristband!?!" "oh on my wrist"

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: lmao nice ^^ Rei most likely deals with "where are all of my necklaces?" "one...two...three...four...ect..."

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: heh yeah like me

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ((brb))

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: k

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: I'm back!

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: yay

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: *claps*

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ^^ so what did you eat?

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: meatloaf 0.o and cream potatoes whatever that is

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ?? I don't know....

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: I had pizza and the delivery person just "happened" to be the same Chris who always tells me to stop killing the computer when it won't let me on elftown during school! ^^

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: I didn't know he was a pizza guy, but I got a laugh from it along with Rei who was on the phone with me so I get to tease him!

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: ??

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: ...uhhhh...don't ask...

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: ^^ we confuse people a lot don't we?

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: lol ok

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: yuppy

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: for some reason we understand each other just fine though...hmmm...

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: interesting

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: ...what???

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: true true

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: *hugs*

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: lol

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: ^_^*hugs*

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: yay! ^^

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: haha I tricked you into taking the bandage off...now what are you going to do?

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: get a new one

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: *flicks you off* you can really suck sometimes...-_-"

2005-04-03 [Acidic Khemica]: *smirks*yeah i know

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: huh??

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: she re-banaged my stomach in wolf army after I threw the old bandage in the lake...

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: oh

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: .< I am not to happy with the stupid thing...it hurts...:(

2005-04-03 [naughty_goth]: thats bad

2005-04-03 [*~Sora~*]: *nods* *tear*

2005-04-05 [naughty_goth]: *pats her head gently* youll be ok

2005-04-06 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles guilyily*...not like i've actually been wearing it since then....

2005-04-06 [naughty_goth]: lol

2005-04-06 [*~Sora~*]: i'm stubborn aren't I?

2005-04-06 [naughty_goth]: it ok

2005-04-06 [Acidic Khemica]: *sigh*when is life going to get better?

2005-04-06 [naughty_goth]: i dont know

2005-04-06 [Oh! Its a Riot xx]: : (

2005-04-06 [Acidic Khemica]: it never will that is why we dont know my family says when i make it better i have tried i dont sin as much i go to church i so call "worship and pray to a god" and still still!my life gets fucked up somehow((sorry for my language))

2005-04-06 [naughty_goth]: its ok and i know what ya mean but ive gotten used to just saying fuck it and dealing with it

2005-04-06 [Acidic Khemica]: i have so many times....it doesnt work anymore

2005-04-06 [naughty_goth]: oh

2005-04-06 [*~Sora~*]: ...and I would call Oni or Rei or Rini up and complain to them...or complain to all of you...or just be all mad, but I always get over it. Come on, go have fun!

2005-04-07 [naughty_goth]: fun doesnt exist

2005-04-07 [*~Sora~*]: YES IT DOES! ^^ like for example I got a go-cart buggy thingy yesterday and I rode it around for hours crashing into my barn and my pine tree which happens to be the biggest tree on my property! ^^ now that is funny, not to mention halarious for the veiwers! ^^....speaking of which I want to do that again!

2005-04-07 [naughty_goth]: interesting

2005-04-08 [*~Sora~*]: yep! ^^

2005-04-08 [naughty_goth]: lol

2005-04-11 [Love Is Just A Catchphrase]: Wow...

2005-04-12 [naughty_goth]: what

2005-04-12 [Love Is Just A Catchphrase]: ...Very interesting...

2005-04-14 [naughty_goth]: im confused lol

2005-04-16 [dr.help]: hello

2005-04-18 [demonsky]: hey.. so how is everyone.. .anyone need somone to talk to

2005-04-19 [naughty_goth]: for once i think im ok

2005-04-21 [*~Sora~*]: *hugs* i miss you people!

2005-04-29 [demonsky]: miss ya too.. just lost a friend to suicide.. he took a pistol to his head over his ex girlfriend.. had so much going for him .. i just dont understand why.. its when you lose a friend to suicide i guess you think of the suicide you used to want and realized what it would of been like to be on the other side.. to be on the side of your family at your funeral.. i really encourage anyone thinking of that path to talk to someone...

2005-05-03 [naughty_goth]: heh maybe i should have read that

2005-05-04 [demonsky]: read what???

2005-05-04 [naughty_goth]: the message you put up before i messaged hehe

2005-05-15 [MagpieWisdom]: International Day Against Homophobia - Tuesday 17th May

2005-05-15 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: otay again this is like the third time ive seen this lol

2005-05-18 [*~Sora~*]: seen what?

2005-05-19 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: the international homophobia thingermaboooooober lol

2005-05-23 [Love Is Just A Catchphrase]: ..whats wrong with gays?

2005-05-27 [whispered_pain]: not a damn thing lol i have quite a few as friends

2005-06-09 [demonsky]: just most seem to make a big deal about it.. i say sexuality doesnt make your personality..your gay ..ok fine just dont rub it in people's face

2005-06-10 [Crimson]: Kinda sucks...when you meet a new person that's really cool...and they find him dead the next day...

2005-06-15 [¤Strange¤]: yea it really sucks... I had that fear about my friend... every morning, after the day I saw him eat a lot of pills, I thought "is he still alive?"... not until now, after almost 5 months, that thought has stoped

2005-06-16 [eyes of frost]: Evening people...

2005-06-16 [Acidic Khemica]: 0.0*blink blink*

2005-06-16 [naughty_goth]: why do people hate others who dont believe in god

2005-06-16 [Acidic Khemica]: dunno

2005-06-16 [LonelyTylenol]: Because people are narrow-minded by nature. All people, to some extent. Maybe not about those things, but everybody about something...

2005-06-16 [Acidic Khemica]: yeah makes sence

2005-06-19 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles*

2005-06-19 [naughty_goth]: it sucks

2005-06-20 [*~Sora~*]: *nods and looks at goth* You took care of Rei, she told me...thank you

2005-06-22 [Q_Q]: hugs all that are not happy hey al whats up how is every one to day i am ok a bit confuzzed

2005-06-22 [Smo]: confussed about what?

2005-06-22 [Q_Q]: my ex gf just we habve been talk and i think she wants me back but i dont know this is what we had http://cathug.com/member.html?membernr=398&n=1119879872

2005-06-22 [~AzureSkyy.-]: You'd be better off taking that to Hopeless Romantics: Advice, they work pretty well there, whether or not you're a hopeless romantic. It's really just relationships.

2005-06-22 [~AzureSkyy.-]: Also, it'd be better if you explained in your own words.

2005-06-22 [naughty_goth]: huh??

2005-06-23 [~AzureSkyy.-]: ( Was talking to [Q_Q] -.-; )

2005-06-24 [naughty_goth]: oh sorry

2005-06-24 [~AzureSkyy.-]: ^^

2005-06-25 [naughty_goth]: so whats up

2005-06-27 [demonsky]: hey peoples...hows everyone

2005-06-27 [*~Sora~*]: bored...

2005-07-05 [naughty_goth]: sleepy

2005-07-08 [*~Sora~*]: happily enjoying the freedom of being ungrounded! ^^ yes! I will never get grounded again....ummm...I hope

2005-07-08 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: ooo what did u get grounded for? i hate being grounded its such a pain in the ass ... grrrr lol >.<

2005-07-08 [*~Sora~*]: being bad

2005-07-10 [naughty_goth]: i dont get grounded hehe i live with my roommate away from home *does happy dance*

2005-07-10 [*~Sora~*]: :P I bet you I would still get grounded....hehehe....why does everyone punish me? *sad face*

2005-08-29 [naughty_goth]: i would only ground you playfully lol i wouldnt punish you *hugs* dont be sad

2005-08-31 [*~Sora~*]: yay! I get away with everything....I'm making a list....it's called "how to get into BIG trouble with your elders and no doubt get wacked for it!"

2005-09-04 [naughty_goth]: lol interesting

2005-09-07 [*~Sora~*]: Plan B.......it's so amaziing! 0.o Sora has leaned things including that she is NOT too cute to punish......yeah.....i'm still sore from that! *lol* but guess what! Being good pays off.....I am finally "training", but it's hard, but it's fun......*smiles* yay.....

2005-09-29 [Ryftwalker]: hey Naughty...anyone ever tell you that you look like fuckin Harry Potter gone Goth?

2005-09-29 [*~Sora~*]: lol

2005-10-10 [naughty_goth]: i hear it all to often

2005-10-10 [*~Sora~*]: sorry, but it is true.....oh yes, and by the way everyone. *points to self* Sora is about to take a walk in the woods to leave her knife there.....very.....very in the middle of nowhere.....

2005-10-10 [*~Sora~*]: I think that I was so stupid to think that nobody cared about me......and it is sad that this came to me as I was doing the Hokey Pokey....I looked up and saw that I was in the circle and all around me were people who cared about me....there was my family...and I have all of you, too.

2005-10-10 [Yuriona]: Its amazing how our own sorrows and pain can blind us to those around us. Always remember all of the people whose lives you've touched just by being born and how those lives will be empty without you in them. *HUGS* Good for you! Life is hard, there is no denying that but no matter what, you are never alone.

2005-10-10 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles* yeah, I just wish I could explain that to my friend right now...

2005-10-10 [Yuriona]: We both know first hand how hard it is to break free of that depressed, self absorbed crap. Like I said it blinds you and when someone you care about is stuck there, all you can do is be there for them. Don't push your friend to hard but don't let him/her ever think that they are alone in their struggle.

2005-10-10 [Child of God]: So true, that's the killer about depression; it makes you feel like you are alone in the world. Even though you have people around you, you still feel alone. Hugs are great for people with depression because they are so intamite. Not a brief, hokey hug but a real, heart-to-heart hug can mean the difference between life and death for some people

2005-10-10 [*~Sora~*]: it did for me....but hugs don't help her....I got her calmed down somewhat, but I am scared that she is going to do something...it's funny....I don't think I will ever cut again, but I feel like I will miss Susan....so I don't think I will tell my mother what happened.....not until I am sure....

2005-10-12 [naughty_goth]: wow this is some deep stuff ... kinda creepy

2005-10-12 [Yuriona]: Well this is an anti-suicide, couselling type wiki and not a chat room like some have mistaken it for. -_-'

2005-10-12 [Child of God]: Just keep doing it. Sometimes you never know how much good it really does. If you are religious, pray for her and tell her you are praying for her. If not, still tell her how much you think of her and love her as a friend. If you keep doing that over and over again, it may just get through to her one time when yo least expect it.

2005-10-12 [*~Sora~*]: It worked *sigh of relief* it worked....

2005-10-12 [Yuriona]: YAY! *hugs Sora* Good work hun! This is just the first step though. Your friend will need all the love and support you can give her through these tough times. Be strong for her. *HUGS* You can do it!

2005-10-12 [Child of God]: I'll keep praying for you two! Just don't give up! Awesome work!

2005-10-13 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles and laughs a little* whoa....I never thought I would be helping people...

2005-11-03 [naughty_goth]: yay go sora

2005-11-04 [dimmu_borgir3212]: i need someone to talk to

2005-11-05 [Child of God]: what's up? I'll talk to ya either here or if ya wanna message me ^-^

2005-11-07 [naughty_goth]: if you wanna talk i really do suggest these people they are great at it

2005-11-07 [*~Sora~*]: I got to see Susan! woohoo

2005-11-07 [Child of God]: How is she?

2005-11-10 [naughty_goth]: good hopefully

2005-11-23 [~*Luna*~]: ....What is I want suicide?

2005-11-23 [Child of God]: . . . ? What do you mean?

2005-11-26 [naughty_goth]: huh??

2005-12-27 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Hey .... I have been hacing problems lately.... thoughts of sucide have gone through my head... i awnt them to go away.. but they wont... help....

2005-12-27 [Yuriona]: I'm here. What's up? Talk to me... I'm here to help.

2005-12-27 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Well basically, so many prolems in my life, a lot of it I can't control, my best frien eyes of frost is skeptical to even speak to me, i'm losing my mind, new apartment, bills to pay, just past experiences keep haunting me.....

2005-12-27 [Yuriona]: We all go through rough times... you'll have to tell me more about your experiences and problems before I can help you. Why don't you send me a PM and we'll talk?

2005-12-28 [Child of God]: I know what you mean [Intolerant Of Hatred], you can message me as well if you need to talk

2005-12-28 [Acidic Khemica]: Yeah but I mostly run from mine which isn't good cause they just catch up with you in the end

2005-12-28 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Having problems really suck.... They never go away

2005-12-28 [Cathos]: They will go away. I promise. Thats coming from someone who has had all of this and got out of the otherside intact.

2005-12-28 [Acidic Khemica]: They go away....It just depends on how hard you work at it

2005-12-28 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: I start to work hard, then somethign comes along and screws everything up then the problems re-surface.

2005-12-28 [Yuriona]: It can be very discouraging but don't give up. You have to learn to incorporated those annoying circumstances that screw everything up and learn to live with them. Keep trying. Things will get better. You just have to keep trying and believing.

2005-12-28 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: I'm trying as much as I can,I think though, that some of the stress I have right now will be relieved when I get back to NY, with my family and such, i'm hoping so.

2005-12-28 [Yuriona]: Being separated from family can make things really rough that's for certain. In my case, staying away from my parents and siblings seems to be better than spending time with them. O_o

2006-01-03 [naughty_goth]: lol i wish i had the option to do that

2006-01-03 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Yeah, see I just started living out on my own aout 2 months ago... But being away from my mom, well.. lets just say.... I WANT MY MOMMY!!! lol.... things seem to be oing better though now that Im home.

2006-01-03 [Yuriona]: Yeah, first time living away from home can be a little intimidating but sometimes getting out on your own is for the best. I know I sure started to get along better with my youngest sister after I moved out. When I lived at home, all we did was fight. O_O

2006-01-04 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Yeah, tell me about it!! I live in the same apartment complex as my sister and we get along so much better now that we don't live with each oher, same with me and my big brother... He's a dork though, haha.

2006-01-04 [naughty_goth]: theres times i wish i had a big brother lol even if he was a dork (i have three sisters)

2006-01-04 [Yuriona]: I had an older brother but he died when I was just a baby so I don't remember him. :( I think he's visited me a few times in my dreams though but I'm not entirely sure.

2006-01-04 [naughty_goth]: hmm that would be interesting

2006-01-04 [Yuriona]: I've had other dead relatives visit my dreams and frankly, I'd rather they visit that way. O_O

2006-01-04 [naughty_goth]: i love the dead i mean ghosts are so cool

2006-01-04 [Yuriona]: You wouldn't say that if you were familiar with the nasty entity at my last house. It was nasty...

2006-01-05 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Ouchies, I used to live in a haunte house in CT, old hospital from the 1800's, some kid died of leukemia there and yeah, well.... lets just say baaaaaaaaaddd...... Thats why I lovebeing wiccan.... yeah..

2006-01-05 [Yuriona]: Roman Catholic here but an open minded one. ;) This was a shadow ghost as far as I could tell. I only saw it twice and it was as black as pitch. Cold too... *shudders*

2006-01-05 [naughty_goth]: ive had some nasty ghost encounters but i still love ghosts

2006-01-05 [Q_Q]: i am all alone

2006-01-05 [Child of God]: Why you say that?

2006-01-05 [Q_Q]: because i am

2006-01-06 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: You dont have to be all alone, you got all of us!!! *smiles and hugs Your Nuka*

2006-01-07 [eyes of frost]: -Looks at Cory- So I see you have made yourself at home. Lol.

2006-01-07 [naughty_goth]: he is very correct your nuka

2006-01-07 [eyes of frost]: ...?

2006-01-10 [naughty_goth]: what??

2006-01-10 [eyes of frost]: Oh not you. Got confused for a minute lol.

2006-01-10 [naughty_goth]: ohok

2006-01-10 [Q_Q]: ok get this my x and i are no longer togther but when she crys i can still some how i know she is crying and it hurts and i hate it so every thing of hursa i bured and moved on i have dated six people since her and for some reson she finds ways to hurt me for a time we were firends and now i dont know what she is trying to do i dont know why i am telling u all this but i guse in my sade nees lonly nees i need soemone to taslk to about the facet that i am still crazzy about her and yet i hate her for what she has done to me how is this so ???~_~ what can i do to hget fully over her is there any thing but just move on and sice her i have not found any one that i love quite as munch sorry

2006-01-10 [Q_Q]: about thwe spelling and thxs and good bye

2006-01-10 [eyes of frost]: It's okay. Send me a message and we will talk okay?

2006-01-12 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: My problems seem to be working themselves out quite nicely, back home with my mom, good things are coming out of this, I met someone new, eyes of frost knows him, things are going very well.... I'm happy! -Smiles at Rachel-

2006-01-12 [Q_Q]: hug rachel

2006-01-12 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Rachel is awesome, well she has helped me out a few times -Winks at Rachel-

2006-01-13 [Q_Q]: lol ok i dont want to know

2006-01-13 [Intolerant Of Hatred]: Its nothing like that, jesum, lol We are just close friends......

2006-01-13 [Q_Q]: lol ok

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